[PAA-Discuss] [L-R-Converg] Venezuela in dire straights today

Sat Sep 16 11:30:59 EDT 2017

Thanks Joe,
I'm sure USA has made many wrong choices over the years like still fighting
in Afghanistan and Iraq.  Past time to pull out.
Jimmy

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Joe Marcinkowski <joegreenst41 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Jimmy,
>
>
>
> Abbey Martin does a really good job in this interview in pointing out the
> dictators (anti Democratic) the USA has backed over
> Democratically elected presidents who cared about the people. All of this
> is part of our History it is not questionable.
>
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> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG29FnXZm4F5U8xpqs1cs1Q
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> Joe
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> *From:* Catherine Foley [mailto:stbsjg at yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:11 PM
> *To:* Jimmy Dunne
> *Cc:* Joe Marcinkowski; joe; massoud1; Lee Loe; Discuss Paa; Elio Cequea;
> L-R Converg
>
> *Subject:* Re: [PAA-Discuss] [L-R-Converg] Venezuela in dire straights
> today
>
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> This would be a "funny" if it weren't so historically and intellectually
> sad.
>
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> C🦋
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 14, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Jimmy Dunne <jimmydunne80 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Joe, you are 100 percent wrong. We supported democracy with our sanctions
> against Cuba the only non-democracy in the Western Hemisphere at the time
> under Castro's boot.
>
> Jimmy
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Joe Marcinkowski <joegreenst41 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Stop with the "support for Democracy"  our support is for the
> Corporations.  We do not support Democracy unless a major corporation has
> that name.
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>
> When the US Government installed  Pinochet in Chile on 9/11/1973 or most
> recently in Ukraine were we supporting Democracy?
>
> I have a list like this include the Shah in Iran etc etc etc.
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> joe
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> *From:* Jimmy Dunne [mailto:jimmydunne80 at gmail.com
> <jimmydunne80 at gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:01 PM
> *To:* Joe
> *Cc:* massoud1; Lee Loe; Discuss Paa; Elio Cequea; Joe Marcinkowski; L-R
> Converg
> *Subject:* Re: [PAA-Discuss] [L-R-Converg] Venezuela in dire straights
> today
>
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> No Lee, the sanctions have nothing to do with V's economic collapse and
> over 700% inflation. Sanctions were put on recently because of Maduro's
> making himself a dictator and squashing democracy.  Economic collapse is
> due to V's shutting out oil companies and wasting huge amounts of income.
> US stands for democracy and tries to quell moves by dictators like in Cuba
> and V.
>
> Jimmy
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Joe <joe at metroretrofurniture..com
> <joe at metroretrofurniture.com>> wrote:
>
> You didn't read it very well:
>
> *Rodriguez:* Yes, but Enrique Capriles has an administrative
> disqualification. He has the right to defend himself in the process of this
> disqualification, because of his apparent participation in acts of
> corruption <http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/issues/corruption.html>. The
> problem is that in Venezuela, where the democratic institutions function,
> where the different branches of power function, where the different
> political public powers make decisions are not agreeable to the Venezuelan
> opposition, they try to attack the Venezuelan system.
>
> Joe Marcinkowski
>
> Metro retro furniture
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2017, at 10:53 AM, Jimmy Dunne <jimmydunne80 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Joe
>
> I read the Al Jazerra interview with Delcy Rodriguez who heads Madero's
> Constituent Assembly which has all power over every part of V government.
> They have banned leader of opposition Enrique Capriles from politics for 15
> years. This is the height of corruption. She is big part of the grab for
> dictatorial power by Madero.
>
>
>
> PS: Freedom House gives V partially free, a 35 rating, Saudi Arabia, not
> free, a 10 rating and N. Korea, not free, a 3 rating. USA,free, has 90
> rating.
>
> ......?........?............? What does partially free mean?
>
> Jimmy
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>
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> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:26 AM, joe <joe at metroretrofurniture.com> wrote:
>
> Jimmy,
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>
> Blatant Bullshit.  Now the right has decided to participate.
>
> Watch this recent Al Jazerra Interview:
>
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> http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/talktojazeera/2017/09/delcy-rodriguez-
> humanitarian-crisis-venezuela-170907060655166.html
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> Joe
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> *From:* l-r-converg at googlegroups.com [mailto:l-r-converg at googlegroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Dunne
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:25 AM
> *To:* massoud1; Lee Loe; Discuss Paa
> *Cc:* Elio Cequea; Joe Marcinkowski; L-R Converg
>
> *Subject:* Re: [PAA-Discuss] [L-R-Converg] Venezuela in dire straights
> today
>
>
>
> August 18, 2017  (Statement by Freedom House Re: Venezuela)
>
> In response to the days-old constitutional assembly announcing that it is
> taking over all legislative powers of the National Assembly, the country’s
> parliament, Freedom House issued the following statement:
>
> “The illegal grab of legislative powers by the constitutional assembly, a
> group with no legal standing, is part of President Maduro’s efforts to
> silence all dissent and shore up a dictatorship," said Carlos Ponce,
> director of Latin America programs at Freedom House. “The constitutional
> assembly was created through a fraudulent election and has no legitimate
> authority to act against congress.”
>
> Venezuela is rated Not Free in *Freedom in the World 2017*
> <https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2017/venezuela>, and Not
> Free in *Freedom of the Press 2017*
> <https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2017/venezuela>, and
> Partly Free in *Freedom on the Net 2016*
> <https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-net/2016/venezuela>.
>
> *Freedom House is an independent watchdog organization that supports
> democratic change, monitors the status of freedom around the world, and
> advocates for democracy and human rights.*
>
> Join us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/freedomhousedc> and Twitter
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> our blog. <http://www.freedomhouse.org/blog>
>
> PS: Saudi Arabia is not a democracy and I condemn their dictatorship. Down
> with all dictatorships and kings by 2099.
>
> Jimmy
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 8:51 AM, massoud1 <massoud1 at windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Jimmy, if “Freedom House sets standards for democracy” then how do you
> explain the U.S. unconditional support for the Saudi Arabia’s undemocratic
> and dictatorial regime?
>
>
>
> Please note that I’m talking about the U.S. government (Democratic or
> Republican administration) actual excellent relationship with Saudi Arabia.
>
>
>
> Since you have a very simple outlook of the world, please answer this
> simple question: If V is bad why SA is good?
>
>
>
> Massoud
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> * You can avoid the answer by saying that Freedom House is an independent
> entity (!) or they have criticized Saudi Arabia before. However the
> question is how do you justify the U.S. government double standard to
> yourself?
>
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> *From:* Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at paa-tx..org
> <discuss-bounces at paa-tx.org>] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Dunne via Discuss
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 12, 2017 10:37 PM
> *To:* Elio Cequea
> *Cc:* Joe Marcinkowski; L-R Converg; Discuss Paa
> *Subject:* Re: [PAA-Discuss] [L-R-Converg] Venezuela in dire straights
> today
>
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> Freedom House sets standards for democracy standards do when Maduro took
> dictatorial power they no longer qualified as a democracy, Cuba is not a
> democracy.
>
> Jimmy
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> Sent from my iPod
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> On Sep 12, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Elio Cequea <feico57 at att.net> wrote:
>
> Did anybody ask him why Venezuela is not a democracy? He was a consultant
> for Herique Capriles, a former presidential candidate who has been elected
> governor twice in one of Venezuela’s largest states. All while under a
> dictatorship!
>
>
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> On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:05 PM, Jimmy Dunne <
> jimmydunne80 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Elio,
>
> He is very knowledgeable about Venezuela and is an impressive speaker with
> good answers for questions.  You can email him.
>
> Jimmy
>
>
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> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Elio Cequea <feico57 at att.net> wrote:
>
> I would like to listen to him live and ask him a few questions.
>
> During the 60's, 70's and 80's Venezuela was governed by people with
> impressive bios. Those were the times, as this guy with impressive bio
> said, income was badly managed.
>
> Well...
>
> Regards,
>
> Elio Cequea
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:27 PM, Jimmy Dunne <
> jimmydunne80 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Enjoyed talk today by Francisco Monaldi, PhD at Rice U's Baker Institute
> for Pubic policy. He was born in Venezuela, has an impressive bio and is a
> lecturer in energy economics at Rice.
>
> He talked for 45 minutes, followed by Q&A for 15.
>
> I took a full page of notes:
>
> Freedom House says Venezuela is no longer a democracy.
>
> Badly managed income in 1970's.  Shell & Exxon were there but V started
> taking more and more of oil revenue so oil companies stopped investing in
> V.  Exports of oil dropped. Hugo Chavez took power in 1999 and became
> partners with Fidel Castro.
>
> In 4 years, more than 1/3 of V GDP collapsed. Chavez became popular
> because of high oil prices.
>
> 1998-2013 V had slowest growth rate & highest inflation in S. America.
>
> Government debt rose rapidly & poverty increased rapidly.
>
> Maduro has only 17.4 percent approval rating in V.
>
> Oil production has dropped from 3 million barrels per day to one million.
> Oil rig count dropped from 110 to 70 active rigs.
>
> V owns Citgo Oil.
>
> V is still friends with China & Russia.
>
> Send questions or comments to: francisco.monaldi at rice.edu
>
> He is very knowledgeable about V and spoke without notes.
>
> He would be an excellent speaker for any serious group.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Jimmy Dunne
>
>
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